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Meditation and Dark Entities 1 year, 5 months ago #7581

  • Larae
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On many occasion during meditation, I will be in the middle of a beautiful deep forest with beams of sunlight streaming through the tree tops. Many species of animals accompany me, bunny rabbits, dear, eagles soaring above the tree tops.. then all of a sudden, it grows dark and the animals run in fear for shelter, I am left there alone. It's at that point that I feel a heaviness surrounding me, I continue to try and breathe and envision the rays of sunlight coming back through the darkness.

I feel something sit beside me and the heaviness increases. I hear wheezing like whispers.. I open my eyes to break the meditation and I see multiple dark figures, about 3 ft tall bouncing from one side of the room to the other.

On other occasions, I just feel a presence around me. It does not leave me feeling comfortable at all. So, I have stopped my meditations until I can grasp the "what's and whys".

Anyone else ever experience this? And, any explanation as to why this is happening? I would love to resume my meditations as it does help balance me out, but I don't want uninvited guests.

Ideas? Suggestions?
We all have to go through countless experiences in the process of our spiritual growth, including the dark ones. If we haven't experienced the Darkness, how can we understand the Light?
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Re: Meditation and Dark Entities 1 year, 5 months ago #7583

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The simplest answer to this in my own experience is yes, I have experienced presences similar to this in my own meditations, breaks in the spiritual quiet that I was enjoying etc. What are they? What do they represent?

Well, to keep my own response as simple as possible, otherwise I'll end up writing a book on here on the subject, the sudden intrusion that comes into the meditative experienced is drawn in, no other way to put that. Think of a ship on a quiet night's ocean, settled into a calm and slow move through the fog of the night time air, the ship itself being me or you at peace with its ocean passage. Whatever setting you are drawn to in your spirit is what you set to your thoughts and thus, it be-comes for you. In my own case it could be a forest, or yes, on an ocean, or possibly just in the ether.

Knowing you personally as I do, I can reliably say that your a spirit of a light-soul that literally acts as the lighthouse cutting through the ether that is across the veil. All living things, whether they think they are such dark and *EVIL* or whatever, are actually alive and well and thus, they shine with a spiritual brilliance that attracts dark entities, just like a lighthouse through the fog of the ocean, or set your own analogy to that if you will. All are the same!

The darker entities, that many sects of the Christian Church, and of course other faiths label as demons, demonic, devilish, black spirits, black shades, people can reiterate their own experiences with those labels, they are attracted to the living brilliance of our physically manifested spirits. You see, true "Dark Entities" for and by the most part have never existed as physical beings so they are highly attracted to us to experience what we do and who we are. You happen to be highly "psy" sensitive, as many of those who come to identify themselves as "psy" are. WE delve into the energy of the universe, we sense, feel, and eventually learn to manipulate the energy of the life that is within us and around us.

These dark entities know this, and are also drawn to our presence for that reason.

The protection?

Well, many have discussed this before, but the beginning, the middle and the end of the chain of protection is formed between you and your deity, "The Great Spirit" in some form for whoever it is and your guide(s) that are with you. Think and meditate on that protection and seek your guide, for me it is often a Raven, just what it is. For others, it will come to them and be represented in whatever powerful form that sits deep within the soul where it will facilitate great and manifest protection as I've also experienced discussed across much of our common pagan community.

The bottom line is, and this always elicits frank criticism from some in my direction, sorry guys but I adhere to this premise in my very soul!

If I truly believe at my core that I am protected and that nothing can cross my boundaries and that my protection is in a solid state, nothing will be able to touch me. That IS my belief and my core when I meditate, when I am in the ether of my spirit state.

It is as you said Larae, always un-nerving, no matter how little or how much we experience.

Sometimes I swear we just attract these things because they want to play.

Tell them to go find their own spiritual sandbox somewhere else! 8-) )

I've mentioned this sometime before, but, every year around the festival of Samhain at the full moon or close to it, I sanctify the boundaries of our house, just to keep away what you are describing. The inside of our house is literally sanctified ground warding off any ill entity that may dare to cross into my realm.

It works, I use sea salt in the border ceremony. That is why I needed it. For that very ceremony. ;)

Peace>

WD>
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Re: Meditation and Dark Entities 1 year, 5 months ago #7603

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Love your post WD and thanks Larae for asking!

I don't know if it's the same entities we are talking about but they seem very much like what I call shadow men. They are attracted to some like moths drawn to a flame and once they know you they will not leave easily.
I used to be very scared of them and they seemed to thrive on feelings of fear and despair. I therefore associated them with "evil" and "dark" and fought them tooth and nail, or simply sat there shivering and very afraid like a small child. To be honest I was still a child back then, I've seen these shadow men as long as I can remember. There were things under my bed and in my closet.

It's when I advanced within my own spiritual path when I learned that there is no devil or demon lying in wait to devour me so I started to experiment and try and communicate. After this they weren't scary anymore, simply annoying.
It's only since the last year that I've shifted in perspective again and begun to see that there is no evil at all and darkness is just veiled light. Everything is there for a reason and there are so many dimensions all with their own beings and, like Allan mentioned, some who never had and never will have physical bodies. I started to see they reacted strongly to negative emotions not out of any evil from their side, but simply because it is yet another emotional state they either thrive on are are simply curious about(not sure if they actually need our energy and are slightly vampiric that way or because they are only curious).

Doesn't mean that they do not unsettle me every time they are near though as they are just "freaky" and can show up really unexpected. I simply let them know, and any other entities in my house, that they are welcome as long as they behave themselves.
This has worked fine for me for a long time and I much prefer a status quo than a constant warzone where I need to ward off entities constantly though most seem to dislike me anyway as I take in too much energy from my surroundings.
There will the occasional idiot who can't behave and it will be dealt with accordingly ("You like my energy? Fine see how much you like it if I take yours away") but I refuse to block off my house completely. There also others whom are more than welcome as they bring so much good with them and I'm afraid I'd block them out too.
That said though...I do have some "house protection" as I have my Mezuzah's and a Birkat HaBayit. I guess we all have our wards in one form or another.

Anyway WD's warding is sage advice if they haunt you so or maybe you could be an idiot like me and communicate/set up clear boundaries to what is acceptable or not. You could even simply clear the area before you start meditation to be certain there isn't any stagnant energy there.
We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are.
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Re: Meditation and Dark Entities 1 year, 5 months ago #7613

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Have you ever read the Odd Thomas books by Dean R. Koontz? If not, they are an interesting read in that there are dark figures that Odd can see (he can see the dead). He calls them Bogarts. In the book, they generally congregate where some sort of unpleasantness is about to be unleashed.

He can see them, but he fears them as, much like you, they have an unpleasantness about them and he is afraid if they realize he can see them, they might not be terribly understanding.

Have I experienced this personally? No, I have not. I have conjured darkness and shadow on purpose and experienced great fear and raw power and exposed segments of my psyche better left buried (which I do not leave buried as it leaves one as half of who they are).

There are two ways that come to mind that you can view it. The first is as external manifestations independent of yourself. That could mean they are creations of another intelligence (be that another person or other force) or be sentient of their own. Secondly, they could be projections from you.

As I am sure you have already deduced, only you can answer those queries. I do not believe either answer is right or wrong, it simply is. Additionally, these shadows, while they may feel uncomfortable, do not assume it is because they are malevolent. It simply might mean that the message they carry is not necessarily joyful or that their “job” is not pleasant (the maintenance crew as opposed to the CEO of a company).

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Re: Meditation and Dark Entities 3 months, 2 weeks ago #9847

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well I have to admit long ago mortal life in mundus with a physical form was most tempting and very attractive but it seems overglorified. Most dark beings myself incuded are drawn to light spirits and especially powerful spirits out of curiousity a simple protection circle should sheild your energy and if need be ward off the stubbern ones. Sea salt would help in the casting of the circle.

Since everyone else has givin great advice I thought I'd at least offer what I can. Hope everything works out for you and be safe larae.
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Re: Meditation and Dark Entities 3 months, 2 weeks ago #9858

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I never did get back in here to say Thank You for sharing your opinions and ideas on the matter, so I will do so now. Thank You all. All of your words have brought comfort and guidance to me.
We all have to go through countless experiences in the process of our spiritual growth, including the dark ones. If we haven't experienced the Darkness, how can we understand the Light?
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