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Re: In the year 2012...Do you believe it is the end?
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Golly... thanks Is...
You know, as much as there is a perceived concern about "what's going to happen", I have to think that the more that people "worry" about the possibilities, the more they're going to make those possibilities reality.
I think you all know where I'm going here.
So, on that note, as opposed to being preoccupied with what "might" happen, think about this simple, three word phrase.
BE HERE NOW
Don't worry about what's been, don't stress about what might happen,
live in the moment you are in. You can only do so much about what is to come, so give yourself a break, sit back, take five nice, deep breaths and just relax.
And while you're out and about, smile at someone you don't know, get them to smile back at you.
It can't hurt either one of you, and besides, what have you got to lose?
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You keep hearing a lot about 2012, and 12-12-2012. I really hope nothing dramatic happens on that day or year. My birthday is 12-12, and I was born 12 years before the tun of the decade leading to the millenium. So yeah, I'm not really liking the number 12 anymore.
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The number, like any symbol, only has as much strength as you perceive it to have.
The strength and energy that everyone is "focussing" on the whole 2012 issue is almost enough to manifest something.
So, I guess that means if something doesn't happen, well, we'll all assume that all is okay. And if something (gods only know what...) does indeed happen, we'll all assume that it's either the "aliens", the gods or it was us making it happen.
Either way, if we all hope for the best and have a positive vibe about the whole thing, we'll likely be alright.
Don't forget to tell someone close to you that you love them, and better yet, smile at someone you don't know.
Share a good vibe sometime today with a stranger.
(I see my lovely sister Nyboria lurking in the background... hi sis
be well, brightest of blessings
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Well, now that I'm back, I gotta put my 2 cents in, or, maybe more like 10 dollars. Anyways... from the latest I've heard, it's supposed to be 12-21-2012.. Or, more commonly looked at as: 122112. I don't know how many people will agree with me, but, something that I've thought of, is that in many branchs of Wicca, everything is in 3's. I myself have had some very odd things happening lately, and, they've all showed up in 3's. That's a different thread, and I need help on it, but, look at the numbers: 122112. There's 3 of each, and, they're intertwined. So, to me, that means that something is going to happen, and, it's going to be life-altering, but, because it's all intertwined, to me, that means there's going to be something that makes everyone come closer together.
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Yes indeed, the date is 21 December 2012, not the 12th. That is when the Mayan calendar ends.
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...and the date of Yule or the Winter Solstice too!!!
The night when Gwynn ap Nudd (aka St. Michael, aka Orion) rides across the night skies... oh, sorry, yet another avenue to wander down, and there's more than enough going on here right now.
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Quote from: Heyoka on July 05, 2008, 09:29:34 PM
The night when Gwynn ap Nudd (aka St. Michael, aka Orion) rides across the night skies... oh, sorry, yet another avenue to wander down, and there's more than enough going on here right now.
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Ahh Orion...brings nostalgia and a pang to the heart.
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Personally, I just think it will be another day.
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Quote from: Sacredsin on July 06, 2008, 12:45:47 AM
Personally, I just think it will be another day.
As for me I thinks it will be a very special day :
"with lot of deception because nothing really happened!"
Joke apart, I have no idea if anything gonna happen, but I watch a TV show somewhere, about a astronomical alignment of some sort. galactic in proportion. Something related to be in perfect line with the center of the galaxies, and theoretically plausible stuff of unknowing major gravitational force... like the rise of the sea at full moon but in another order of magnitude...
Do not scream if you didn't understand what I wrote I didn't either!!! I had not follow the TV show closely enough!
As for the end of the world, if it's not in 2012 it will be shortly after, if you study carefully history; every civilization that crashed exhibited strong decadent sign, as for ours, it exhibit the same strong indication of rapid decay. and because we are more advanced more numerous and more more more whatever; it will crash faster. (I will not give you any example cause this will create flame and discord) but I will give you some sort of clue :
(Look at the first idea that come to your mind when you think about the decadence and fall of the Greek, the Roman empire, the Egyptian...)
But the strongest point for me is :
The disparity between the poor and the very rich.
Globally on earth! it's is so major, so insane, so not "OK".
So utterly indecent. that soon rather than later it's gonna crash in flame. you can push so fare people before they explode.
I'm French and I have the French revolution in mind as a shorter example of this. But what was true in those days "the difference between rich and poor" now it's so not the same order of magnitude.
I think that if the civilization crash it will be because of this...
And the Chinese, as they put 40 percent of the country income to the army! and no country put that much money without preparing to go to war!
as for the GOD or Alien plot on 2012 well ?
Aliens are amongst us already ! since dawn of time why would they chose to change there habit? (if you do not agree on this I would strongly advise you to travel, and maybe go to Mexican and Mayan ruin and look for yourself at those picture on the wall of there temple! same for Egypt, and so many different old culture that is so embarrassing to think otherwise.... in other world think for yourself.
God doesn't give a damned about the humans. (he care about spirit, soul and stuff) I mean there is still war, famine, decadence, murder, theft and what not immoral action being done on this globe. I do believe in a higher being, consciousness. but it is rather plain that this being, this god, this force, this consciousness doesn't give a damn about human being and there petty affair. (like having a car, making money invading you country for oil, and that sort of stuff)... it's so pathetic and rather presumptions to say god want, god said, god think ... I think that this thing that most of us call God; is so remotely alien, to our understanding that we cannot gasp let's understand it's motives. yet based on observation we can still at our level make some sort of distinction. that we clearly do not give a damn about human affair!
And for the possible enlightenment of some sort that will unify the human race?
I seriously doubt it, in this short time, but with the advance of quantum physics, I let my option open on this one. who know maybe we can discover the genie in the quantum lamp! or the GOD particle! or we can find access to multi-universes and stuff, or we can create a black hole that will destroy the universe....
Quantum physics is clearly the sciences of limitless possibility and if I did understand it correctly all of the at one ... to the moment when you observe one...
Which led me to the final one
(as the observer and creator of my own reality...)
I would love that in 2012 the Shadows-Run plot would happen .... (some sort of awakening of magical force.. and dragons, elf, gnome, dwarfs and stuff appearing as modification of human DNA....) that is how I would love the 21 December 2012, the winter solstice, to be.
Just a the sun awake, and the planet aligned to the center of the galaxies, a shining wave of mystical energy spreading out on the surface of the earth modifying the DNA awaking the earth, transforming ....
But I don't want to be a gnome or a small green stone eater! I want to be either a vampire or a dragon...
(last notice, there is a awful lot of believes and prophecy around 2012, form very strong and different sources. fare more that any previous date)
And I think what really would happen is exactly like my introduction , most human on earth will be majority pissed off, because they will be so disappointed because nothing really happen....
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"...they will be so disappointed because nothing really happen..."
Well, nothing they'll notice.
Things will happen on deeper levels, that the vast majority won't understand or possibly even perceive, but those who are sensitive to the changes will obviously see/feel what's gone on.
If in fact, anything.
It's all in one's perception, all in one's ability to feel that almost undistinguishable shift in their reality.
And considering that so many people hereabouts seem to be able to "feel" these shifts, I find it interesting how many "sensitive" people are also running around going "Nothing's going to happen, nothing's going to happen..."
If we all continue to be conscious of something happening, it's going to happen.
If we all run around saying that it won't, it won't.
ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE THAT DON'T BELIEVE.
Simple as that. You create your own reality. If you don't choose to accept the concept of the (possibly approaching) changes, they won't happen for you.
As the silly man on Mythbusters says, "I deny your reality and substitute my own"
We all make our own choices as to how to believe/perceive.
And so it should be.
be well, brightest of blessings
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If I would ask a dollar for every prediction about when the earth will cease to exist I would be a millionaire in one year.
Why do people focus so much on negativity and not on something simpler like, oh I say, trying to be polite to another person? Why not change yourself instead of waiting for the world to change?
One thing that keeps popping in my head was a prediction I read as a child in a book that around this time a new world-religion would arise and bring peace. I can't remember who wrote the book or even the title but that passage, including the lay-out, typography etc.) I clearly recall; funny how the mind works.
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Quote from: Fulgrim on July 11, 2008, 12:19:57 PM
If I would ask a dollar for every prediction about when the earth will cease to exist I would be a millionaire in one year.
Why do people focus so much on negativity and not on something simpler like, oh I say, trying to be polite to another person? Why not change yourself instead of waiting for the world to change?
What 2012 is thought by many of us to represent isn't about the world ending or necessarily negativity. And it is about changing now. If you look at some of the posts here, it is important to change now because 2012 is about a spiritual change or ascension, 'not' about a physical ending of the world. Ones who choose to stay in a life of negativity right now are the only ones who might have a more true and literal ending of their personal world. So it's important to let go of what doesn't serve your spirit the best. But no, it's not that the physical world ends on that day. I don't think many really believe that.
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Quote from: Sybilla on July 11, 2008, 01:53:32 PM
If you look at some of the posts here, it is important to change now because 2012 is about a spiritual change or ascension, 'not' about a physical ending of the world.
Like you said most posts here are about change (slowly reading back the whole topic should be something I need to do more often, my apologies). The reason why I reacted as such is that I've discussed this topic with many others who actually believe it will be "the end of all things".
I still stick by the fact that people should have a desire to change in a positive sense anyway, not to wait for significant dates, astrological happenings or otherwise. It seems like some people just need an extra hand in that regard.
I can only hope that something major and positive will actually happen although I'm not certain. I just have this 'feeling' that will not go away.
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I see your point, Fulgrim. People should really want to change and be kind to others because it's the right thing to do and not just because it's leading up to a particular event. Good point you made that I totally missed!
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Quote from: Heyoka on July 11, 2008, 11:17:44 AM
It's all in one's perception, all in one's ability to feel that almost undistinguishable shift in their reality.
heyoka
As one has either honed their perceptions to be the finest compliment to the highest ideal of who they truly are, or are in the process of the re-awakening of these elements of ones inner perceptions that have been there all along, but just filed away like some old School-Day book report that in its time was considered a brilliant addition to ones life, but now just forgotten. Its all just a file cabinet in the spirit away from being real again.
Very well put Heyoka! The best description of all of the soulful side of this subject that I think I've come across in quite some time!
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